watch an episode of Voltron. Keep Expert roulette. It's gone through a few variations since it was made into a. Hello, I was curious why I can no longer skip cut scenes in the MSQ roulette. Originally Posted by hynaku. 69. I think MSQ roulette is a poor substitute for enjoyable content and haven't touched it in a long time. May as well make them soloable with Raha, Doga and Unei as duty support. I'll take my 50 monk into msq Roulette and report back. Diribiri. MSQ Roulette is great and valuable at exactly what it is: An extremely low-effort way to get a ton of experience and Poetics over the course of 40 minutes. Scholar Lv 90. If you still want to grind exp you can do leveling dungeons without the daily roulette bonus and level up that way. The main thing is: MSQ roulette is first and foremost a way for players to assist first timers. The MSQ roulette (with the 2 long last dungeons of ARRA) is not really fun but gives you a big big big amount of xp that scale with your level (doing it past lv70 still gives me the half of my xp bar). Once you’ve completed all these steps, you’ll be able to unlock. When the level cap increases. The Alliance roulette is very rarely outside of the lvl 50 stuff and occasionally the lvl 60 runs with 8 time out of 10 are a joke as. LLRoulette (The Aery) - A bonus of 158,400 experience points and 1,860 gil has been awarded for using the duty roulette. So what happened? This is not a new or surprising story, this is a normal day in MSQ Roulette. Because it's the lowest level Alliance Raid, it will always have the biggest chance to appear, since the Pool is always determined by whoever has the fewest amount of Raids unlocked in that group of Players. Since patch 2. Business, Economics, and Finance. Otherwise we'd get a queuing problem similar to what's still happening with Guildhests' to this day (AKA. Never do 50/60/70 dungeon roulette. Saves a lot of time for pre made groups. Hell if you get fast runs in new dungeons. Prae will be split into three seperate sections. Y'ser Tovaras. When I get thrown into Praetorium via the Duty Roulette, sometimes I will gain a full level. You're Lv. You'd also get 20 tomes from Trial Roulette, assuming you get the level 90 trial each time. My guess they will make the crystal tower raids 4 person and add them to the MSQ roulette. They could easily whip up some easy hests that teach players stack markers, earthshakers, acceleration bombs, etc, using existing assets. Idk. Swiftsure International Yacht Race, Victoria, British Columbia. Even with doubling the XP, the time to complete to XP gained isn't. Personally. People are using an expolit to be able to skip cutscenes in it, and then forcing sprouts to do the same, or yell at them for watching cutscenes. Roulette is not going away. Leveling roulettes provide, on average, 29. Personally I'd have preferred if all 4-man dungeons and trials required for MSQ, leveling or not, were combined into MSQ roulette. Furthermore, older. I will say, WHY wasn't the original fight like this in the first place? It is sooooo much better! SableRhapsody • 2 yr. People don't kick from Castrum, because the people who went AFK are, usually, hoping they get kicked so they can re-queue for the MSQ roulette and hopefully get Prae for the better xp. Patch 6. Yes, the XP reward at the end is doubled, but in the time it takes to complete one MSQ roulette, you could also do an Alliance Roulette and Trial Roulette and walk away with the same XP. Everyone that queues for MSQ roulette is treating it like a chore that needs to be done because it gives great rewards. Haha no. Methodology Compared to the first quantitative analysis I did back in the day, I am using a slightly more detailed methodology this time. My Warrior of Light in Final Fantasy 14 does her daily chores without a complaint. The MSQ roulette exists to make it possible for new players to get through those dungeons with a team of other players. However, MSQ roulette is the single highest xp/hr content in the game, and arguably the best source of poetics as well. Fisher Lv 90. You could also just finish the other roulettes every day, queue up for the highest level dungeon, do Palace of the Dead and Heaven on High, grind Fates, do Hunts, do beast tribe quests, complete. Which patch is MSQ roulette getting removed/prae turned into 4-man? I'm still using the roulette everyday for leveling classes to 90. Goblin. It contributes more XP so they overlevel MSQ even more (assuming they haven't already reached 90, or 70 if on free trial). Spreading speed run strats is a great thing, and I for one applaud op's effort. Roulettes. Having a pallet cleanser game between MSQ pushes isn't a bad thing. Main Class. If the MSQ is overwhelming you, take a break! Also you can take a break from FFXIV itself as well and return at a more refreshed time. Clear time was around 30 minutes, so the whole thing seems average so far. 4. Lower for Trials and normal raids, which are . Level 70-79: IL 305 4. 1 Main Scenario Roulette thoughts. And the Main Scenario Roulette just includes two Full Party dungeons: Castrum Meridianum and The Praetorium. I just do Frontlines. The ARR MSQ Roulette really is a joke every instance I visit. step 7. Every time I see this question, I'm reminded of how dumb it is that Level 80 Dungeon roulette isn't progressive like 50/60/70 is. Today's Posts; Today's Posts (All) FAQ; Forum Actions. Fisher Lv 90. But being required just adds to it even more. That would fix the problems and stop the complaints about the alliance raid roulette. As others have mentioned, unlock wonderous tales which you can do weekly on. Such is the life of a. This can apply to other content as well, but MSQ roulette can definitely make or break you based on who you get in your party for the day. The existence of a semi-efficient, tedious, mindless source of XP and poetics is likely a net negative for game health overall. I'm still using the roulette everyday for leveling classes to 90. World. giving 4-5 million for 25 minutes. The bonus for a Frontline Roulette is generally more significant than a leveling roulette, and it feels like a bargain in time spent. Do you want that back? The reason why MSQ gives stupid rewards because SE is asking you to spend 40 minutes to an hour of your time to finish it. There are SO many ways to get the tomestones, that MSQ roulette is like the last of them. 6. For example, if you're level 56 but still on level 50 MSQ, then your gear should be on par for level 50 MSQ. Goblin. It's probably misnamed as it isn't actually MSQ roulette. MSQ Roulette is great and valuable at exactly what it is: An extremely low-effort way to get a ton of experience and Poetics over the course of 40 minutes. There are no instances similar to Castrum, Praetorium and Porta Decumana, therefore no other instances need or should be added to MSQ roulette. This thread is archived. It's to allow. Also, Leveling Roulette, before Endwalker, would give more than that. There was a time when CT was not required for the MSQ and it was still always CT in the roulette. Counting experts, mob Gil drops, etc, should make around 100k. You can propably guess how often that pops and what the waittimes are like. I think this is an absolutely terrible way to treat Sprouts, and a horrible. The roulette still gives off good XP and you can just consider it extra XP in your leveling runs. For the MSQ roulette, particularly Praetorium, you should expect half a level. at the end. Yeah i can't do msq roulette without playing something in the background. 50/60/70/80 roulette - right now this is 48 dungeons; 19 MSQ dungeons and 29 optional. It was that or rework both dungeons. 4 so stuck in old world) and a 44 white mage. HW relics is basically just a giant poetics grind fest, take your time or you'll probably burn out. It may take a while if you are not a tank or healer though. One of the tanks needs to stun at around 82-84%. Main Class. No, it isn't. Trials is not good on XP, but its always easy to do and doesnt take a lot of time. The more correct solution would be to shorten the other raids so they are also completed in 15-20 minutes. Well, please explain it because I was under the impression it would randomly select a dungeon, trial or MSQ for us to participate in, hence the name roulette. Also, I hope those Skipped cut scenes and 100% text was only A Realm Reborn. This is mainly a venting post, and hopefully not just for me. do household chores during cutscenes, pick the kids up from school, go and have a catch up with your elderly neighbor. So maybe once the new patch is out you'll see a different one. Unfortunately, Crystal Tower being required for the MSQ means everyone has to unlock it, so anyone who doesn't know about the others, or just doesn't bother, will drag everyone into it. More if you also do frontline and get a bit lucky with higher level dungeons in Leveling roulette. For Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Realm Reborn on the PC, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "How are people getting through cutscenes in MSQ Roulette faster?". On top of that Alliance raid is even better then MS roulette. The 40 astronomy tomes are from the roulette bonus; you also get 50 astronomy tomes per clear of a given level 90 dungeon, even if you aren't doing it in the roulette. 1 Dustin Bailey. Skip cutscenes and reduce rewards by 90%. this only changes if now in 5. It can. And it's the same regardless whether you get CM or Prae. So long as the mechanics keep me entertained while I am playing (like they have) I'll keep hitting up roulette and playing anyway! Thanks for the quick response!Because MSQ Roulette needs to exist for new players. MSQ Roulette is painful to do (less so Castrum then Praetorium) because it's mind numbingly boring. then obviously the Raid has to have happened and thus is at that point mandatory. Castrum, Prae, and Ultima Weapon (Story) will be the roulette after 6. Leveling roulettes provide, on average, 29. 1. I'm not sure how it is on other data centers, but on Crystal, alliance raid roulette has just become Crystal Tower roulette. So if you're level 65 but synced down to 50 for MSQ roulette, you'll get the same exp as if you were level 50 doing the content. step 3. I noticed an awful trend in MSQ Roulette now. 0 we will have 18 class to level up. at 81, the roulette exp doubles, which means you would have gotten 4/5 of your level for 40 minutes, same as prae and castrum. You don't put in the amount of work to. It's to allow people that are new to even get groups for those dungeons, which are required to proceed. e. MSQ roulette isn't even the best one in terms of time to exp, Frontline is which takes a 3rd of the time and sometimes queues faster too. Someone else asked for address and I actually gave them one on the off chance I actually got a pizza. Unfair comparison. Specially Shadowbringers. If you had a high enough system (or installed the game on SSD with large enough RAM), you'll usually ends the cutscene a few seconds earlier than others, especially if they plays from PS4. Good news, you can simply not do the MSQ Roulette. You can't stick them in normal dungeon roulettes, because they're the only 8-man dungeons. I'm just sick of doing WoD over, and over, and over again. Edit: I now realize this is about the MSQ roulette and not leveling roulette. To unlock expert roulette, you first need to complete the Main Story Quest (MSQ) of Endwalker. So once you've done the first one and have unlocked the second on in the crystal tower raid it will unlock. Putting them in MSQ roulette again would make CT never pop, since wait times would be too high and you get placed in the current MSQ content way before enough people get found for CT. Before the mando-cs(s), running MSQ used to take no more than 10 minutes at most. So judging by this one data point, there has been no significant changes in the MSQ roulette in this regard. Roulette. This change was never going to "fix" alliance roulette because ilevel cheese was never the main cause of "Crystal Tower Roulette" in the first place. I guess if you're leveling other jobs you have plenty options and should know to do the roulette before 60/70/etc. Name. Either put in the time and effort required or don't queue at all, please. But if the other seven people in the party can manage to find a YouTube video to watch, you can too. Yeah, it's annoying that you can't skip the cutscenes, but it's not like the MSQ roulette is required. rafaelfy. MSQ roulette should only be available when an actual newbie is queueing for one of. That would fix the problems and stop the complaints about the alliance raid roulette. - - - Updated - - - Yikes,. Edit 2: Also don't forget that jobs that are below the highest level you reached on any job get overall less exp, yes also from roulettes. I doubt Prae would give 10 moogle-tomes anymore, maybe 5 or 6. It makes the most sense in leveling roulette. After completing the MSQ, players will have access to the Armoury Bonus for all combat jobs lower than their highest leveled job. Hell if you get fast runs in new dungeons it probably isn't that efficient time wise anyway, I'd only ever really queue for it as dps. First, the conditions: It was a full roulette run. PVP Frontlines is i think 50 a match, each matches 10-20 mins, say Average 15mins thats 200 an Hour. The former will take more MSQ to unlock though, since it's only the 2 most recent MSQ dungeons. They're known to submit troll-like posts. **edit** You didnt ask about non-roulette, but doing at level is obviously better for XP UNTIL you get to the lvl 50, 60 and 70 dungeons. that one Full party duty). do daily roulettes with MSQ. So I try my damnedest to be as obnoxious as possible. all Light Party duties vs. Alternatively they could go for some kind of rule where you need the raids to continue using the roulette once you pass a certain MSQ threshold, for example starting 5. Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit HomeRoulette. When leveling high-level jobs, it's a godsend. When leveling DPS, I take the 10 minute queue times over running. The MSQ rou will skip through the cutscenes, not restart them. The only thing I hate more than MSQ roulette is the solo duties you run in MSQ with a bunch of story NPCs, it feels so utterly pointless. Castrum aggro issues are often not the tank's fault. The only reason Main Scenario Roulette gave so much exp to begin with is because the content is awful, but they had to get players inside somehow or else newbies could not progress the MSQ. ago. Trials require double the amount of people and the reward for rerunning trials without roulette is non-existent, while in comparison you have people rerunning all sorts of MSQ dungeons for different reasons. I'm tired of sometimes getting good exp and sometimes getting crap, especially. Unsure if you need 8 man raids normals. Here are the lengths (I've omitted the opening cutscene length) Ah Cid My Boy- 2:55. As I mentioned in another comment ITT I got my first level 90 in patch 2. But being required just adds to it even more. Porta Decumana @level 89 = 3,181,995/10,838,000 which is barely 30% exp. 0 end dungeons for every number. With respect, if someone goes into the Mentor Roulette, they should be prepared to be a helpful Mentor and help someone with any content in the game. Guildhest roulette gives negligible XP on high levels and not worth it. It's not mandatory content. [MSQ roulette] Public Today I decided to try the revamped MSQ roulette to see how it was. It would be nice to have level 56 gear, but you don't strictly need it for a level-50 MSQ because level-50 MSQ is designed to work with the at-level gear. Main Class. Level Requirement. It's my curse, my eternal curse! I want to skip the cutscenes but I. I imagine that the reasons are well documented, so I’m not interested in listing them again. I think I'd honestly question someone's sanity if they said they had fun doing MSQ roulette. SacredNym • 2 yr. I really got a pizza. For most of those who have overleveled their MSQ progress, the roulette bonus is more harmful than helpful. If not the MSQ-lette, the Aetherochemical Research Facility gives out 200 poetics each run. Liveletter said after the update MSQ roulette will simply no longer be its own thing. The raids are also max lvl content for their given expansion and thus didn't grant exp and instead tomestones. Otherwise, your roulette will mainly grant you currencies (gc seals or tomes) which is more or less useful too, but you certainly don't need them if you level only 1 classI did 2 runs of Praet with MSQ roulette as healer and yesterday's was 22 minutes with an insta-queue, and today's was 19 minutes (with a 5 minute queue time adding to 24 minutes). 50/60/70/80 about half a level, same with alli roulette. You still need 1 run to level up, nothing has changed just the numbers are smoller. Since I still have ARR, HW, and EW relics I need to finish; I'll probably do MSQ roulette, Aglaia, Euphrosyne, and. I would love to see it broken up (maybe separated into a 50/60. MSQ roulette isn't that surprising with only two options. Those instances simply fun for me. e fps and custcene loading time. The XP given by roulettes is Percentage based, meaning its based on your current level. Patch 6. otherwise your next roulette will be MSQ roulette after a couple lvl 50 MSQ quests. One of the tanks needs to stun at around 82-84%. Originally Posted by MintnHoney. You don't need savage. By Jenny Zheng on March 4, 2022 at 3:12PM PST 2 Comments FFXIV's meatiest patch since Endwalker's release, 6. Reaper Lv 90. back when i just started i thought MSQ roulette would include the x. MSQ Roulette pretty much only exists so players running that content for the first time will actually have people to run with, it was a bandaid for that content being unfun to run more than once by providing tons of rewards for it. But both of these give out 100 more if there are new people running it. This. Or, as a really fun change, make alliance roulette min ilvl only. AGAIN just don't run MSQ roulette if you don't have time. 0. Unlock Quest Location. The only way things will get added to the MSQ roulette is if they add more 8 man dungeons. It's ridiculous that people do that. Exact numbers of xp is irrelevant since that varied with level, and has been squished now anyway. But it works. ago. The mechanic of riding the Magitek armour in Praetorium will be. So MSQ would have to stick around, or people would just nope out of those dungeons if they get them in the 50/60/70/80 roulette. Ex. Pick them up from blue sidequests in the Crystarium and Amaurot. I ended up with Preatorium, which is now just fighting the Ultima Weapon. The only reason its got such great rewards compared to other roulettes rn is to compensate for the time investment. Duty Roulette:MSQ needs to be addressed. Normal Raid, 50/60/70/80 and Guildhests are all pretty meh. But if you queue as a level 50 job, you only have to wear level 50 gear. Watching the chocobo head's mouth wobble in cutscenes has been a great source of entertainment. All the info in one location. just get them to the msq roulette or delete over all and make it solo content. Forum Top. Ragnarok. Once you hit 50, you can do the MSQ roulette which gives you a boatload of exp everyday. Praetorium took about as long as any other duty at that level does, I actually had to pay attention and do tactics*, and it netted a juicy pile of tomestones to boot. The next live letter might talk about it. Main Class. MSQ roulette is separate due to the mandatory cutscenes and longer run time. Mentor Roulette puts me in MSQ duties fairly often, and I will dip out and find another game to play for 30 minutes every single time. Combine all non-MSQ required dungeons into a single roulette called Optional Dungeon roulette (that gives exp and tomes equal to the current leveling roulette). Normal Raids and Level X0 roulette are "decent enough" palate cleansers if you are bored, but their XP is behind just running the higher dungeon you can. World. If you're looking for XP, run level appropriate dungeons instead. I suspect that's because people's leveling goals are winding down now that the expansion is on its back half so there's less of a demand for those duties from normal queuers. Normal raids are also solid for. The intent of the MSQ roulette is to let people fill groups for the 8-man storyline dungeon because that's an unskippable 60 minute long dungeon, and not everyone wants to do that. The MSQ ones (in 50/60/70/EX obviously) have a higher chance of popping as there will always be people queuing for those specifically cause they need to do them to advance. 5 Million EXP for doing a Level 60 Dungeon for the Roulette. Fisher Lv 90. " It's not a flattering look, dude. The Mhach raids come up occasionally. Remove the roulette and distribute the XP and tomestone rewards to other roulettes. Because it’s locking out the very small fraction of people who don’t have this stuff unlocked; if you are level 84 in the post ARR MSQ you aren’t helping anyone because the roulette doesn’t need any more incentive to pop CT, this change increased the priorities of people queuing for the roulette who are adequately levelled and have all the raids. It's easy XP and I can do other stuff while the cutscenes are playing. Main Class. First, the MSQ roulette. So, for anyone whom had not heard, on the 12th, we will be losing Prae as we know it. ago. But you can't unlock the the CT raids before you've finnished 2. I'll take my 50 monk into msq Roulette and report back. The Alliance (24-man raid) roulette and the Levelling roulette are also quite generous when it comes to experience rewards, making them particularly appealing. However, some dungeons must be unlocked via "blue quests". Don't. The MSQ quest gives plenty of experience to support leveling two classes as you play it. MSQ roulette is only the final two dungeons of ARR. How you do it is start queue, wait about 20, go get food, come back and queue has popped after 45 minutes, eat food, still have 30+ minutes of the dungeon left. Circumstances changed, ended up doing it as 67 Ninja, rolled Castrum, 2. Prae gives 75ish% of a level for a 45 minute time commitment with 5 minute of work. Tykero980 Aug 7, 2021 @ 6:51am. Final Fantasy 14’s Worst Daily Chore Is Main Scenario Roulette. These quests were made for levels 60-70 and were released with Patch 4. I’m a good little Eorzean. This is not ok! I was wondering what can we as a community do towards people like this that wants to force other people to use an exploit/bug in the system?I know I should do leveling and alliance raid for alt classes since they give a ton of xp. It's a nice change of pace even if it means I'm consigned to the oblivion of Labyrinth and Syrcus. These. If they give the option to skip it if all players have completed it, they'd have to introduce some method of reducing the reward accordingly. Shitposting in the chat tbh. My joining a roulette already in. That way no players are screwed out of anything. Character was at level 67, and ended up with xp from the run corresponding to 85% of a level. Rather than splitting this by level, I think it would probably make more sense to split it by MSQ vs optional, with slightly better rewards for the optional one (since fewer people would be manually queueing for those). also if you got d/c-ed during one, you'll skip it once you get back in. ErgoFnzy • 9 mo. Its literally because CT is required for msq and that skewes the roulette. World. 60 at this point and have. It was the realistic solution. All Disciples of War, Magic, the Hand, and the Land receive EXP for a wide variety of activities. It's because it's the lowest level. 3 and/or Patch. Sniffies emphasizes cruising as an immersive, interactive experience, making it the hottest, fastest-growing cruising. What you guys think?Trying to get it removed. The best part about MSQ roulette is that you can do it as often as you want, and you don’t need to be in a party to do it. Alliance raid is also very very good for leveling. That's fine I suppose. Toasters! The worst is getting the level 15-20 dungeons as a healer and all you have is your basic healing spell, a dot, and your GCD damage spell. I like the inclusion of the sources. This thread is archived. When the level cap. -party practically disbands Castrum within 10 seconds of starting, meaning another 30m dps queue for me (that also got castrum)So yeah, MSQ roulette is not going to change because it's isolated for very specific kind of content that still have unique factors they clearly aren't going to replicate (they learned that long dungeons mid-cutscene, while cool cinematically, are ANNOYING to do multiple times, and you can honestly get the same effect by just splitting the. Prae belongs there. That's less than leveling roulette. . Praetorium @level 88 = 6,002,500/9,529,000 which is slightly over 60% exp. Okay, I have now done an MSQ roulette run of Praetorium post-patch 6. MSQ roulette isn't even the best one in terms of time to exp, Frontline is which takes a 3rd of the time and sometimes queues faster too. At Level 79, it got me 3. Running just the Lv80 dungeons even without the roulette bonus is faster tomes. 5x-2x as long as the typical level 50 dungeon, due to the unskippable cutscenes. If you get a dungeon close to or at your level (51, 53, or 55) your roulette bonus is going to be minimal because you get a lot of exp from the mobs and bosses in said dungeon. Or my level. Required Main Scenario Quest Completion. First: MSQ roulette is the best exp/time ratio of the roulettes, it's longer but skipping it is a massive cut to your daily exp. The roulette-reward is bait, so that you will help someone whos running the duty for the first time (or for a specific purpose). The big difference is that you would only have to sit through a queue wait once for MSQ roulette to get that. Later - much later - in the game you can do the MSQ dungeons (but not the trials) with NPCs as your party. Note that the roulette bonus is available only once per day. My guess they will make the crystal tower raids 4 person and add them to the MSQ roulette. The Gilgamesh one should pop sooner or later if you queue during peak hours. So when you queue for it, you know you are joining a "climatic fight" in some way. The numbers aren't exact, but it was about 30% of a level for Castrum and 60% of a level for Praetorium when using the MSQ roulette, prior to EW. 1 as they all will be 4-man instances. I've done MSQ roulette as DNC, and that huge burst of damage from Standard Step always tears. The highest exp for any job or level is to spam the highest level dungeon you can enter, after getting your bonuses. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. But being required just adds to it even more. Or just get to MSQ Expansion end* and get your Shire Tomestone gear (then Scaevan, Cryptlurker, probably Credendum by the time you get there). e fps and custcene loading time. This post is just to make a simple request; if you queue for MSQ Roulette, please do no AFK at the entrace for the entire run. MidSp Shakin' it. So once you've done the first one and have unlocked the second on in the crystal tower raid it will unlock. It's tough to be able to vote kick people when you're always in battle or rolling on loot because of how fast people run the stuff. Goblin. All the Lv80 dungeons give 50 tomes (expert roulette gives +40), and you can do a bunch of them in the time it takes you to do one MSQ or Alliance Roulette. I still do the boss fights, mind you. It contributes more XP so they overlevel MSQ even more (assuming they haven't already reached 90, or 70 if on free trial). Odin isn't in trial roulette (only mentor roulette) so post a PF group for that one and do it unsynced (a level 90 can solo it in less than a minute). 3. Prae will be split into three seperate sections. 80% of a full level's worth of experience, even at level 79. 12. I'm in the level 80 range, and I've had runs on other jobs where my. Prae does give more xp for the dungeon itself, but. at 81, the roulette exp doubles, which means you would have gotten 4/5 of your level for 40 minutes, same as prae and castrum. Roulettes efficiency, measured. Also, Prae is something you can no longer 'cheese' through, as I'm sure the place being tuned for 4 people means you needs you actually need to focus now. Leeching in msq roulette. Roulettes in general probably wouldn't have a table, because, according to the in-game description, it is based off of both your level and the level of the duty you get into, so, levelling for example, will get different xp rewards based on what level dungeon you get. So you may as well just do it. I've had Castrum and Porta plenty of times. There are reasons people skip literally everything they can - mob exp doesn't scale in value very well at all. I'll admit that I groan a little when I get ARF/Ala Mhigo/Amaurot/Dead Ends in roulette, even if the tighter sync is better for gameplay. These are very worth it for leveling.